10月16日是第33個世界糧食日,我們來關注近來飽受爭議的一項農業新技術:轉基因。在相關的科研人員看來,它可以改善農產品質量、提高產量,也是未來農業的發展方向;而er在zai一yi部bu分fen心xin存cun疑yi慮lv的de公gong眾zhong和he反fan對dui者zhe眼yan中zhong,轉zhuan基ji因yin技ji術shu卻que是shi風feng險xian難nan斷duan,安an全quan有you待dai檢jian驗yan。那na麼me轉zhuan基ji因yin究jiu竟jing是shi什shen麼me?為wei什shen麼me轉zhuan基ji因yin在zai有you的de人ren眼yan中zhong是shi天tian使shi,在zai有you的de人ren眼yan中zhong卻que變bian成cheng了le惡e魔mo?央yang視shi財cai經jing頻pin道dao主zhu持chi人ren沈shen竹zhu和he特te約yue評ping論lun員yuan中zhong國guo人ren民min大da學xue農nong業ye與yu農nong村cun發fa展zhan學xue院yuan教jiao授shou鄭zheng風feng田tian、著名財經評論員劉戈共同評論。
在有的人眼中它是天使;在有的人嘴上它是惡魔。轉基因到底是什麼?轉基因究竟安全嗎?公眾為何有那麼多不必要的擔心?又怎樣讓人們對轉基因放心?
吃還是不吃?麵對轉基因有關的爭論從來沒有消停過,支持者有之,反對者也有。
我(wo)國(guo)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)作(zuo)物(wu)有(you)哪(na)些(xie)?中(zhong)國(guo)農(nong)科(ke)院(yuan)植(zhi)保(bao)所(suo)副(fu)研(yan)究(jiu)員(yuan)謝(xie)家(jia)晉(jin)介(jie)紹(shao),我(wo)國(guo)已(yi)批(pi)準(zhun)安(an)全(quan)證(zheng)書(shu)的(de)有(you)棉(mian)花(hua),水(shui)稻(dao),玉(yu)米(mi)和(he)番(fan)木(mu)瓜(gua),隻(zhi)有(you)棉(mian)花(hua),番(fan)木(mu)瓜(gua)批(pi)準(zhun)商(shang)業(ye)化(hua)種(zhong)植(zhi),批(pi)準(zhun)進(jin)口(kou)用(yong)作(zuo)加(jia)工(gong)原(yuan)料(liao)的(de)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)作(zuo)物(wu)有(you)大(da)豆(dou),玉(yu)米(mi),油(you)菜(cai),棉(mian)花(hua)和(he)甜(tian)菜(cai),這(zhe)些(xie)食(shi)品(pin)必(bi)須(xu)獲(huo)得(de)我(wo)國(guo)的(de)安(an)全(quan)證(zheng)書(shu)。
今年6月,農業部批準進口三種美國轉基因大豆。我國從1997年開始進口轉基因大豆,目前已批準了8個品種的轉基因大豆進口,用作加工原料。
彭於發(農業轉基因生物安全委員會副主任委員):xianzaijinkoudezhuanjiyindadouyangelaijiang,jingliantichunyihoudedadouyoulitoushibuhuihanyouzhuanjiyindechengfende,yinweitadezhuyaochengfenshizhifang,erzhuanjiyindechanwusuobiaodadeshidanbai,zhegedanbaizaidadoujingliandegegeguochengzhongjian,shiyinggaishuoyijingtichule。
錦繡大地糧油批發市場信息部主任:轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)大(da)豆(dou)油(you)占(zhan)整(zheng)個(ge)大(da)豆(dou)油(you)的(de)比(bi)例(li)能(neng)夠(gou)九(jiu)成(cheng)以(yi)上(shang),非(fei)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)的(de)大(da)豆(dou)油(you)它(ta)的(de)銷(xiao)量(liang)很(hen)小(xiao),價(jia)格(ge)上(shang)相(xiang)對(dui)來(lai)說(shuo)比(bi)較(jiao)貴(gui),所(suo)以(yi)就(jiu)造(zao)成(cheng)市(shi)場(chang)占(zhan)比(bi)很(hen)小(xiao)。
轉基因食品安全問題一直倍受關注,截至2012年底,包括美國,歐盟,日本在內的全球59個國家和地區批準轉基因作物進口用於食品,飼料或種植,數十億人食用轉基因食品,尚未發現任何有科學根據的安全問題。
鄭風田:轉基因的兩類極端觀點都是不理性的
(《央視財經評論》特約評論員)
實際上轉基因有兩類極端的觀點都是不合適的,一個就是轉基因妖魔化,認為轉基因致癌,轉基因是美國人的一種陰謀論等等;lingwaiyibojiushirenweishijierenmindouzaichizhuanjiyin,zhuanjiyinmeiyourenhewenti,suoyoudongxidouyaogaozhuanjiyin,zheliangleijiduanguandianderenrongyirangdajiatingdaozhezhongshengyin,wojiaodeshibulixingde,shijishangzhuanjiyin,birurenbuzhijiechide,zhegetuiguangdebijiaoduo,rentiantianchidezhuanjiyin,quanshijiejibenshanghaimeiyoujinxingdalidetuiguang,haichuzaishiyanshijieduan。
劉戈:轉基因離我們的生活越來越近
(《央視財經評論》評論員)
qishigenzhuanjiyinxianzailiwomenyuelaiyuejinyouguanxi,dajiaduinaxiebutaishuxideshiwuzonghuiyouhenduodedanxin。meiguoxianzaiyouguanzhuanjiyinanquandewentikenengxiangduieryan,jiushishuotaduirenshentijiankangyingxiangdewenti,xianzaitaolunderenbijiaoshaole。
在17年前,在人類的第一個商業用途的轉基因品種,大豆被推廣使用,當時美國、ouzhoufanduideshengyinfeichangda,taolunyefeichangduo。kaishideshihougengduodeshitadeanquanxing,shibushiduiyuwomenrendeweilai,duiyuwomenshentidejiankanghuiyouyingxiang,lingwai,duiyuhuanjingdeshibushiyoupohuai,zhexiedouhuiyoutaolun。xianzaiyouyuwomenkaishishiyongdaliangdezhuanjiyindeyou,haiyouwoguopizhunleyixiexindezhuanjiyindezheyangyixieanquanrenzheng。zaizheyangyigeqingkuangxia,dajiadedanxinhuizengduo,yigehewomenlidehenyuandeshiqingyidanhewomenderichangshenghuoyaofashengfeichangjinmiguanliandeshihou,suoyourenjiuyaofabiaozijidekanfa,zheyehenziran。
羅雲波:轉基因使育成新品種的精確性和安全性更高
(中國農業大學食品學院教授 《央視財經評論》評論員)
轉zhuan基ji因yin食shi品pin就jiu是shi說shuo用yong轉zhuan基ji因yin技ji術shu改gai造zao過guo的de植zhi物wu,或huo者zhe是shi動dong物wu所suo做zuo成cheng的de食shi品pin,為wei什shen麼me有you這zhe麼me一yi個ge轉zhuan字zi?就jiu是shi說shuo它ta可ke以yi把ba我wo們men所suo需xu要yao的de基ji因yin,非fei常chang有you目mu的de的de把ba它ta拿na出chu來lai放fang到dao需xu要yao改gai造zao的de植zhi物wu也ye好hao,動dong物wu也ye好hao裏li頭tou去qu,使shi得de育yu成cheng新xin品pin種zhong的de迅xun速su和he精jing確que性xing更geng高gao,安an全quan性xing也ye更geng高gao,而er轉zhuan基ji因yin實shi際ji上shang就jiu是shi把ba這zhe個ge過guo程cheng弄nong的de更geng精jing確que,真zhen正zheng從cong事shi生sheng物wu科ke技ji的de,懂dong得de生sheng物wu科ke學xue的de,尤you其qi是shi懂dong得de分fen子zi生sheng物wu學xue的de,育yu種zhong科ke學xue的de科ke學xue家jia是shi不bu會hui對dui轉zhuan基ji因yin提ti出chu什shen麼me質zhi疑yi的de,或huo者zhe說shuo它ta的de安an全quan性xing有you什shen麼me危wei害hai。社she會hui上shang有you很hen多duo說shuo法fa,比bi如ru說shuo要yao斷duan子zi絕jue孫sun,吃chi了le之zhi後hou要yao得de癌ai症zheng,還hai有you這zhe樣yang那na樣yang的de一yi些xie問wen題ti,那na麼me這zhe些xie謠yao言yan是shi怎zen麼me來lai的de,情qing況kuang非fei常chang複fu雜za。一yi個ge新xin技ji術shu出chu現xian以yi後hou,它ta總zong會hui是shi觸chu及ji到dao另ling外wai一yi些xie人ren的de利li益yi,轉zhuan基ji因yin的de東dong西xi不bu需xu要yao農nong藥yao,而er且qie還hai長chang得de很hen好hao,它ta的de成cheng本ben很hen低di,品pin質zhi也ye很hen高gao。從cong商shang業ye利li益yi考kao慮lv,有you一yi批pi人ren要yao給gei轉zhuan基ji因yin製zhi造zao一yi個ge恐kong怖bu的de形xing象xiang,讓rang大da家jia去qu抵di製zhi它ta、排斥它。
劉戈:對於轉基因食品 公眾有選擇權
(《央視財經評論》評論員)
我wo覺jiao得de還hai是shi可ke以yi放fang心xin的de吃chi大da豆dou油you,我wo們men家jia裏li頭tou也ye會hui吃chi,因yin為wei這zhe已yi經jing經jing過guo了le十shi幾ji年nian時shi間jian的de驗yan證zheng。從cong現xian在zai來lai說shuo,我wo們men拿na不bu出chu來lai任ren何he它ta對dui身shen體ti健jian康kang有you影ying響xiang的de例li證zheng。當dang然ran另ling外wai一yi些xie人ren,他ta們men有you權quan利li進jin行xing自zi己ji的de選xuan擇ze,我wo覺jiao得de沒mei有you問wen題ti,因yin為wei在zai我wo們men國guo家jia也ye有you硬ying性xing的de標biao準zhun的de規gui定ding,也ye就jiu是shi說shuo,轉zhuan基ji因yin大da豆dou來lai榨zha的de油you必bi須xu進jin行xing標biao注zhu,所suo以yi大da家jia是shi有you選xuan擇ze權quan的de。
現xian在zai會hui有you一yi些xie聲sheng音yin,有you很hen多duo謠yao言yan,那na麼me在zai影ying響xiang著zhe大da家jia的de選xuan擇ze,包bao括kuo轉zhuan基ji因yin食shi品pin會hui引yin發fa癌ai症zheng,包bao括kuo轉zhuan基ji因yin食shi品pin會hui引yin發fa不bu育yu症zheng等deng等deng根gen本ben沒mei有you經jing過guo科ke學xue驗yan證zheng的de一yi些xie謠yao言yan,在zai一yi定ding的de傳chuan播bo過guo程cheng當dang中zhong變bian得de非fei常chang廣guang泛fan,而er且qie還hai把ba一yi些xie陰yin謀mou論lun的de觀guan點dian加jia進jin來lai。比bi如ru說shuo這zhe是shi一yi些xie西xi方fang的de種zhong子zi公gong司si控kong製zhi我wo們men資zi源yuan的de手shou段duan,甚shen至zhi成cheng為wei其qi他ta國guo家jia控kong製zhi我wo們men國guo家jia戰zhan略lve資zi源yuan的de手shou段duan,那na麼me這zhe樣yang一yi些xie錯cuo綜zong複fu雜za的de聲sheng音yin加jia起qi來lai以yi後hou,對dui於yu公gong眾zhong來lai說shuo,我wo寧ning信xin其qi有you不bu信xin其qi無wu,因yin為wei食shi品pin安an全quan的de問wen題ti本ben來lai我wo們men現xian在zai就jiu很hen嚴yan重zhong,所suo以yi那na我wo就jiu信xin了le,因yin為wei我wo可ke以yi有you選xuan擇ze權quan,那na在zai這zhe種zhong情qing況kuang下xia,這zhe一yi種zhong反fan轉zhuan基ji因yin的de聲sheng音yin,我wo覺jiao得de它ta們men產chan生sheng的de作zuo用yong和he效xiao果guo是shi非fei常chang明ming顯xian的de。
duiyuhenduofanzhuanjiyinrenshilaishuo,tajiaodebuguangshiwomendeshipin,birushuozhu,zhuxianzaitachiyaodaliangdedoupo,haiyouyumijiuzao,namezhexiedoushicongmeiguojinkoude,tadoushizhuanjiyinde,namezhuchileyihou,duiwomenrentijiankanghuibuhuiyouyingxiang,xianzaiyechengweiyigetantaodehuati。
鄭風田:我們既不能把轉基因無限地擴大 也不能妖魔化它
(《央視財經評論》特約評論員)
wojiaodejibunengbazhuanjiyinwuxiandikuoda,yebunengyaomohuata。xiangwomenguojia,xianzaishijishangzhenzhengdewomennengchidaodezhuanjiyinshipinyejiushidadouyou,dadouyoushimeiwentide,weishenme?yinweixianzaizhuanjiyinzhuyaoyongBT抗(kang)蟲(chong)的(de)基(ji)因(yin),這(zhe)個(ge)是(shi)蛋(dan)白(bai)部(bu)分(fen),我(wo)們(men)吃(chi)的(de)實(shi)際(ji)上(shang)是(shi)大(da)豆(dou)的(de)油(you)料(liao)部(bu)分(fen),它(ta)蛋(dan)白(bai)部(bu)分(fen)已(yi)經(jing)作(zuo)為(wei)廢(fei)渣(zha),做(zuo)飼(si)料(liao)去(qu)了(le),我(wo)們(men)國(guo)家(jia)規(gui)定(ding)所(suo)有(you)進(jin)口(kou)的(de)大(da)豆(dou)必(bi)須(xu)用(yong)來(lai)榨(zha)油(you),所(suo)以(yi)你(ni)吃(chi)的(de)豆(dou)腐(fu)、豆dou漿jiang不bu是shi轉zhuan基ji因yin做zuo的de,是shi我wo們men東dong北bei的de非fei轉zhuan基ji因yin大da豆dou做zuo的de,所suo以yi現xian在zai你ni說shuo我wo們men整zheng個ge大da豆dou油you都dou是shi轉zhuan基ji因yin的de,不bu安an全quan的de,這zhe是shi錯cuo誤wu的de,就jiu是shi因yin為wei它ta沒mei含han轉zhuan基ji因yin成cheng分fen。
xianzaidajiayilunzhegezhuanjiyinshiyouhaide,shijishangshimeiyougenjude。womenguojiashijishangzhenzhengtuiguangdezuiduoshizhuanjiyinmianhua,mianhuayoubuchiyemeiwenti。womenyijingchileshijiniandezhuanjiyindadouyoule,quanshijiezhuanjiyindedadouzhanbaifenzhijiushiduo,suoyicongzhelaikan,yijingguoleshijinian,ruguozhenshifaxianbirushuozhuanjiyindadouyoushizhiaide,zaodoubeitingle。congmouzhongchengdushangshuo,zhuanjiyinzhiaishenmededoushiyaoyan,renleishijishangduizijidejiankanganquanhaishihenzhongshide。danzhebingbushishuoming,yinweidadoudezhuanjiyinmeiwenti,suoyouwomendexiaomai、玉米、大(da)米(mi)都(dou)要(yao)搞(gao)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)。我(wo)一(yi)直(zhi)有(you)一(yi)個(ge)觀(guan)點(dian),就(jiu)是(shi)我(wo)們(men)吃(chi)的(de)主(zhu)糧(liang)的(de)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)作(zuo)為(wei)一(yi)個(ge)底(di)線(xian),為(wei)什(shen)麼(me)?因(yin)為(wei)你(ni)不(bu)可(ke)能(neng)天(tian)天(tian)吃(chi)油(you),就(jiu)吃(chi)一(yi)點(dian),但(dan)是(shi)主(zhu)糧(liang),你(ni)可(ke)能(neng)天(tian)天(tian)要(yao)吃(chi),一(yi)吃(chi)吃(chi)一(yi)輩(bei)子(zi),所(suo)以(yi)如(ru)果(guo)你(ni)要(yao)把(ba)這(zhe)個(ge)東(dong)西(xi)搞(gao)成(cheng)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)了(le),萬(wan)一(yi)二(er)三(san)十(shi)年(nian)後(hou)它(ta)有(you)一(yi)點(dian)問(wen)題(ti)的(de)話(hua),可(ke)能(neng)就(jiu)會(hui)有(you)一(yi)些(xie)潛(qian)在(zai)的(de)風(feng)險(xian),因(yin)為(wei)食(shi)品(pin)安(an)全(quan)沒(mei)有(you)百(bai)分(fen)之(zhi)百(bai)的(de)安(an)全(quan),它(ta)有(you)一(yi)定(ding)的(de)風(feng)險(xian)度(du),這(zhe)個(ge)風(feng)險(xian)度(du)如(ru)果(guo)積(ji)累(lei)很(hen)多(duo)年(nian)之(zhi)後(hou),會(hui)不(bu)會(hui)產(chan)生(sheng)一(yi)種(zhong)質(zhi)變(bian)?食(shi)品(pin)安(an)全(quan)這(zhe)樣(yang)的(de)惡(e)性(xing)事(shi)情(qing)還(hai)是(shi)很(hen)多(duo)的(de),所(suo)以(yi)從(cong)這(zhe)來(lai)看(kan),我(wo)們(men)對(dui)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)應(ying)該(gai)是(shi)兩(liang)麵(mian)看(kan),既(ji)不(bu)能(neng)把(ba)它(ta)想(xiang)象(xiang)成(cheng)都(dou)好(hao)得(de)不(bu)得(de)了(le),也(ye)不(bu)能(neng)把(ba)它(ta)想(xiang)象(xiang)成(cheng)惡(e)魔(mo),它(ta)一(yi)定(ding)是(shi)有(you)好(hao)的(de)成(cheng)分(fen),我(wo)們(men)應(ying)該(gai)充(chong)分(fen)利(li)用(yong)它(ta)好(hao)的(de)一(yi)麵(mian),把(ba)它(ta)負(fu)麵(mian)的(de)東(dong)西(xi)降(jiang)到(dao)最(zui)低(di)。
劉戈:要使用轉基因技術 但在使用和推廣的過程中要謹慎
(《央視財經評論》評論員)
全世界的轉基因食品從1996niandaoxianzaizengjialeyibaibei,henduofazhanzhongguojiadouzaifazhan,suoyiwomenyebixuyaofazhan,danshizhuliangshibushiyaofazhan,zhegewomenyaotaolun。zhuanjiyinzainongzuowufangmiandezuoyongfeichangjuda,birushuomianhua,yiqianwomenguojiashoumianlingchongdezaihaiyingxiangfeichangda,jingchangquanguozhuyaodechanmianqujianchanfeichangda,zaochengmianhuadejiagejuliebodong,zicongquanmiantuixinglezhuanjiyinmianhuayihoudehua,zhegeqingkuangjiudaweihaozhuan。yindutuiguangzhuanjiyinmianhua,congyigemianhuajinkouguobianchenglechukouguo,suoyizhuanjiyinjishubushiyaobuyaodewenti,jiushibixuyao,danshizaishiyongdedangzhong,tuiguangdedangzhongyaojinshen。
比如美國FDA,大量的公眾調查都要求轉基因食品應該標注,但是FDA一(yi)直(zhi)拒(ju)絕(jue)。就(jiu)是(shi)說(shuo),美(mei)國(guo)的(de)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)食(shi)品(pin)農(nong)作(zuo)物(wu)沒(mei)有(you)義(yi)務(wu)標(biao)注(zhu)它(ta)是(shi)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)的(de),從(cong)這(zhe)一(yi)點(dian)來(lai)說(shuo),它(ta)有(you)這(zhe)個(ge)自(zi)信(xin),它(ta)認(ren)為(wei)通(tong)過(guo)我(wo)們(men)這(zhe)麼(me)多(duo)科(ke)學(xue)家(jia)的(de)驗(yan)證(zheng),這(zhe)麼(me)長(chang)時(shi)間(jian)的(de)驗(yan)證(zheng)它(ta)沒(mei)有(you)問(wen)題(ti),那(na)所(suo)以(yi)它(ta)用(yong)不(bu)著(zhe)標(biao)注(zhu)。但(dan)是(shi)歐(ou)盟(meng)就(jiu)要(yao)求(qiu)的(de)嚴(yan)一(yi)些(xie),就(jiu)進(jin)行(xing)了(le)標(biao)注(zhu),我(wo)們(men)國(guo)家(jia)也(ye)進(jin)行(xing)了(le)標(biao)注(zhu)。我(wo)們(men)國(guo)家(jia)的(de)政(zheng)策(ce)還(hai)是(shi)對(dui)的(de),就(jiu)是(shi)說(shuo)需(xu)要(yao)標(biao)注(zhu),對(dui)於(yu)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin),我(wo)們(men)不(bu)那(na)麼(me)了(le)解(jie),所(suo)以(yi)要(yao)是(shi)主(zhu)要(yao)的(de)食(shi)品(pin)材(cai)料(liao)來(lai)自(zi)於(yu)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin),那(na)麼(me)需(xu)要(yao)明(ming)確(que)地(di)標(biao)注(zhu),那(na)麼(me)消(xiao)費(fei)者(zhe)也(ye)需(xu)要(yao)多(duo)一(yi)個(ge)心(xin)眼(yan),就(jiu)是(shi)說(shuo)如(ru)果(guo)你(ni)是(shi)一(yi)個(ge)反(fan)對(dui)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin),或(huo)者(zhe)擔(dan)心(xin)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)的(de)人(ren),那(na)就(jiu)注(zhu)意(yi)去(qu)看(kan)標(biao)識(shi),這(zhe)個(ge)問(wen)題(ti)就(jiu)可(ke)以(yi)解(jie)決(jue)。
鄭風田:我們不應單純依賴轉基因技術 應該多種技術發展
(《央視財經評論》特約評論員)
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羅雲波:轉基因技術可以減少蟲害
(中國農業大學食品學院教授《央視財經評論》特約評論員)
目(mu)前(qian)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)技(ji)術(shu)的(de)發(fa)展(zhan)水(shui)平(ping),它(ta)可(ke)以(yi)減(jian)少(shao)蟲(chong)害(hai),我(wo)國(guo)現(xian)在(zai)是(shi)農(nong)藥(yao)全(quan)世(shi)界(jie)的(de)第(di)一(yi)使(shi)用(yong)大(da)國(guo),而(er)這(zhe)些(xie)農(nong)藥(yao)的(de)使(shi)用(yong)效(xiao)率(lv)實(shi)際(ji)上(shang)是(shi)很(hen)低(di)的(de),真(zhen)正(zheng)能(neng)夠(gou)殺(sha)蟲(chong)治(zhi)病(bing)的(de)是(shi)有(you)限(xian)的(de),因(yin)為(wei)你(ni)一(yi)噴(pen)灑(sa),有(you)些(xie)是(shi)在(zai)作(zuo)物(wu)上(shang),有(you)些(xie)就(jiu)噴(pen)灑(sa)在(zai)水(shui)裏(li)、空氣裏、土壤裏了,它造成了巨大的汙染,隻有差不多10%左右的農藥真正是在治病。如果我們要可持續發展,要環境友好,我們利用轉基因的技術就可以少打農藥,甚至是不打農藥。
轉基因的食品是按照食品來進行管理和進行科學評估的,食品首先就是要安全,而所謂的“滴滴涕”,“敵敵畏”,“六六六”等(deng)等(deng)這(zhe)些(xie)農(nong)藥(yao),一(yi)開(kai)始(shi)我(wo)們(men)就(jiu)知(zhi)道(dao)它(ta)是(shi)有(you)問(wen)題(ti)的(de),但(dan)是(shi)那(na)個(ge)時(shi)候(hou)為(wei)什(shen)麼(me)要(yao)用(yong)呢(ne)?那(na)是(shi)不(bu)得(de)已(yi)而(er)為(wei)之(zhi)的(de),因(yin)為(wei)那(na)時(shi)候(hou)沒(mei)有(you)這(zhe)些(xie)藥(yao)的(de)話(hua),我(wo)們(men)沒(mei)有(you)更(geng)好(hao)的(de)低(di)毒(du)的(de)農(nong)藥(yao),如(ru)果(guo)不(bu)用(yong)這(zhe)些(xie)農(nong)藥(yao)的(de)話(hua),糧(liang)食(shi)就(jiu)沒(mei)有(you)產(chan)量(liang),沒(mei)有(you)收(shou)成(cheng),它(ta)不(bu)能(neng)夠(gou)跟(gen)轉(zhuan)基(ji)因(yin)來(lai)相(xiang)提(ti)並(bing)論(lun)。


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